As someone who proudly wore "Green" until relatively recently, the tone and attitudes of some of the posts on this thread are quite frankly amazing... Just loved the "Corporate RAF" bit btw!
In my opinion we "owe" the Navy, Army and Airforce nothing. But we are bound by unbreakable bonds of loyalty to our brothers in arms, who are doing a great job under trying circumstances.
Some of the posts here are a clear betrayal of that concept in my opinion and serve to highlight to me the differences in attitude across the services.
FFS wake up and smell the coffee! Or were you one of those senior "managers" making life difficult for everyone else in the name of the OBE or the extra pip/crown?
Do you honestly think just bending over and taking like a bunch of good boys helps anyone out? We are not being disloyal to our brothers in arms out on the front line. In case you hadn't noticed we have precious little confidence in our senior military leadership to do the right thing and absolutely none in our political leadership. But each and everyone of us on this forum would probably fight to the bitter end if it meant getting serving personnel on the front line out of a tight spot in one piece. That is loyalty, not sitting there and being shafted day after day.
And I'm sorry, but if you can't read between the lines on this thread and many others like it, not only here but also on our sister sites, and see that is what those of us on the front line are saying now, have been saying for several years and the way things are going will be saying in several years time, then you must have been one of those "everything is fine Sir, now can I have my promotion" types.
And I suppose it does highlight the difference between the services as you rightly say: too many "Green" types are renowned for saying yes for the sake of saying yes without any thought as to the sanity or wisdom behind what they are being asked to do. And if that's your idea of leadership and followership, then I'm happy where I am.