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Old 30th May 2007 | 11:41
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andrijander
 
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I think I've said this before but I'll try and re-phrase it to make it clearer. It's not what some of you say...but the way it is said.

M609,

(for example) if you feel sad...well, it's not under our responsibilities as ATCO's to care for your psichycal wellfare. I know you don't really get that sad (or rather hope?) and that what you mean is that you don't like to see that case you point happening. You know what? I actually think you may be right though in making your point. 1 language may be better for situational awareness. But that doesn't allow for certain ways of saying things(there may be better examples but it's getting long enough so I just picked this one). I must say though that I, sometimes, use spanish also: for freq change, squawk chg, to call someone's attention or, once, to comment a problem that had happened regarding an spanish carrier route (crew had different from the one approved by cfmu) Now, knowing that situational awareness plays no role whatsoever on all of the above...can't I do that neither? Everybody will have an opinion for this one I assume

Also take into account that, as sad as it may be, sonnendec is also right. When the bussines started rules were laid down and this was agreed. Wanna change the rules? Do it the right way -if we check the name of the thread it's not about the language but it keeps creeping up here and, anyway, an internet forum is not going to change the real thing-.

One thing I would like to read more often perhaps is, when someone complaints about a given situation, please mention what you would have expected from that situation. For example: I have a colleague, now ATCO, but that was a pilot before. He's told me he remembers one time he was established on final and had visual w the preceding traffic and the controller stuck in front of him an A/c for landing (so he went from being nr 2 to nr 3 when at 8 miles from threshold). No infringment of any rule, no loss of separation...but he would have liked to know from beforehand. Maybe a lack of style? perhaps. But not illegal nor unsafe. Point being this colleague and his co-pi would've liked to know. If I would ever be on an app radar or twr and see it happening I'll keep that in mind. Was the guy back then and there working the app told? Don't think so.

Now I try to give tfc info when I can but it doesn't mean I'll do it all the time.

Please be constructive,
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