RYR738jockey, your voice recorder readout was the funniest thing. i could hear myself while reading it and i could hear the panic in my own voice!!
But on a serious note you came up with some really on the nose points they were:
"When in Spain...
1: I often find myself in a situation asking for confirmation/verification,
WITHOUT getting it.
2: the controller prioritizes according to his subjective perception, rather
than the ACTUAL situation. If I have a problem, I have to speak up in
order to get attention. Litterally using my voice.
3: I don't know what to expect. Changing ARR/SID/RWY...
4: I feel they don't care much about detailed knowledge. For instance, IFR
design parameters, MOCA's/MORA's/MSA's etc. MaŅana
5: ...last but, not least...Bad phraseology/language difficulties
Before you behead me, I don't have English as first language either."
Now a few people are still saying that things aren't that bad down there. I really dont know why they are calling you a liar! If lots of us say there is a problem, why do some people insist we are imagining it, and then compare spain to lagos? i wasn't on my college debating team, but some people here...well, need a lesson in logic!!
Bascially, ryr738jock has laid it all out. He has listed specific problems. I agree 110% and have experienced them ALL.
Can someone do something to fix them? And please dont make me puke by saying that you heard all this at heathrow and lagos so spain is really ok. when will you get it into your thick skulls. ITS NOT OK. THERE ARE PROBLEMS. these are safety issues, they need to be addressed, not compared with other countries.
Blaming it on culture is not acceptable. The spanish have fixed many problems and achieved great things throughout history with the same culture. why is it a problem for aviation and not any other walk of life in spain. This is an ORGANISATIONAL PROBLEM. This is a problem that ATC training and management need to take on board. They need to raise standards and stop the problems that 738jockey and every other jockey sees on a REGULAR BASIS.
rant over...call you back..