What a load of b0ll0cks all of you primadonna "engineers" talk. It's just a job which involves a bit of responsibility. I'm sure that some of you guys walk out of your front doors in the morning with your (well travelled) nav bags with all the stickers attached feeling very proud and hoping that the pretty young neighbour at No 23 is watching you and thinking how important you must be, especially if you wear stripes! And down at the pub you'll be the centre of attraction as you recall decisions that you've had to make to ensure the safety of the travelling public. I bet you don't recall the bogs and basins that you've had to unblock or the times you spend up to your elbows in grease and cr@p, that's not so impressive is it? I believe that the true engineers designed and built the aircraft and we as licenced personnel maintain them. What's in a name when there's a nappy stuck down a lav?