GormanInkarnati, if you are glad not to be at SAA is that maybe because you happen to fly for a wholly owned subsidiary of SAA?? And don't worry about the SAA pilots - Government just injected R4 billion into SAA which should keep the airline afloat for at least 4 years based on the current loss situation, including being able to pay us SAA pilots our huge salaries which are totally undeserved!!