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Old 20th March 2007 | 12:56
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Sky Wave
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SkyWave and Mr. B, I'm afraid you're showing your ages!
But I'm just a wee nipper! well maybe that's an exaggeration but I'm not very old and I've only ever held a JAA licence.

It does however appear that I referenced an old source. I'm just starting in the airline world and have been searching for an answer to the IF question, and everyone you ask has a different opinion. I've searched all previous pprune threads and the posters can never agree. I should really have gone straight to JAA-FCL1 in the first place.

I will therefore elect to go with JAA-FCL 1.080 and await a training captain to tell me that I'm doing it wrong, however the way I read this it doesn't look like use of the remarks column is optional. Therefore should we be logging actual instrument time in the remarks column and IFR time in the operating conditions column?

(v) A remarks column will be provided to give details of specific functions e.g. SPIC, PICUS, instrument flight time*, etc.
* A pilot may log as instrument flight time only that time during which he
operates the aircraft solely by reference to instruments, under actual or
simulated instrument flight conditions
The above does not state that it’s optional to record specific functions eg instrument time.

JAA-FCL 1.080 part (b) section (5) Doesn't really make sense anyway because it states that operating conditions should be recorded (i)Night, (ii)IFR, yet IFR is not an operating condition, it is a set of rules, IMC however is an operating condition as is night. I think I'm more confused than when I started.

(5) Operational conditions:
(i) Night
(ii) IFR

Can airline pilots in the JAA world confirm that they log the full block to block time as IFR in the operating conditions column regardless of whether they are PF or PM? Do you guys n girls just not bother recording time that you are in actual IMC?
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