My ecclesiastical friend, please find below, for your information the definition for which you are striving.
de·bate (d-bt)
v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates
v.intr.
1. To consider something; deliberate.
2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See Synonyms at discuss.
v.tr.
1. To deliberate on; consider.
2. To dispute or argue about.
3. To discuss or argue (a question, for example) formally.
n.
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.
I have attempted to start the said debate by proffering the proposition. Your attempted rejection by way of counter debate suggests lack of understanding and/or education, Sir. Either way an attempt to answer the original questions would be most appreciated. Unless of course the answers are too unpalatable?!
Look after number one, no body else will.
Fly Safe
B
PS. Come on Speccy, surely landing an airliner on its tail amounts at the very least to gross mishandling?