chevvron
respected colleague and ppruner
just to clarify....what we say to Brize on the direct telephone line is not what is given to the aircraft.....we use an agreed and understood abbreviation called a "MALBY 80". This translates to "join controlled airspace 5 miles north of MALBY at FL80".....not unlike a kind of SID. I believe that Brize give a CHEDWORTH departure in conjunction with this [I think]. The traffic is under Brize control until it is transfered to London as it approaches the edge of CAS.
Anything out of Lyneham climbs to FL70 on a SIREN departure [in the MALBY area], and may have to climb in the hold until we can be sure it will make FL180 by KENET [if eastbound] in order to jump London TMA traffic.
The "Remain outside" option you mention is absolutely correct for some circumstances.....for example it may be the only option for a Gloucester[Staverton] joiner if no procedural solution is possible, but a radar solution will be.
eyeinthe sky
another respected ppruner
my series of safety recommendations on kamikaze bandboxing and crap customer service delivery caused by 90% R/T loading gained second prize in the recent iPOD competition. Don't believe for one minute that all controllers hold the same high level of professional ethics that you and I do. I'm left with the feeling that I'm the only one who actually read the last copy of "Safety Matters".