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Old 30th Jan 2007, 12:54
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Chesty Morgan
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Telstar, thanks for the link. It's interesting to note where they started their orbit - On very short final, pretty much over the threshold AND in full landing config. At that point I would be following the standard missed approach. Allowing the aircraft to descend in the orbit, over banking, flying the orbit in the landing config, ignoring PNF's altitude warnings - Not good for a commercial pilot of any experience let alone a Captain with 8000hrs on type! Had they started the orbit further away and therefore at a greater height, not allowed the aircraft to descend and flown the effing aeroplane that report wouldn't exist.

Hudson

or are you a more superior pilot that does his own thing and no matter what you read
No.

You are why CRM was invented.
Laughable dear chap. Having never flown with me and having never met me that comment is arrogant in the extreme. Do you have proof?

Do it on a line check and see what happens
Funny you should say that. In fact many line checks ago I did. I was congratulated by a then very senior LTC for my actions! I think he mentioned "Good situational awareness, adaptability, good CRM etc.." Shall I go on?

Regarding the reports you love so much. How many reports of orbiting on final are there when it has worked perfectly?

Joe Le Taxi

Just a point of interest. Our company doesn't allow us to descend below MSA unless we are; Under Radar Control, Procedural OR visual.
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