I think Angryblackman worked for Evergreen years ago and has not been able to see what is going on now. He was speaking about Bob Warren who is now gone, Chapman has not been in charge of the union in a while and is turning 60 in Jan or Feb. Things are changing here at Evergreen, but change is taking a while. The Boeing contract is great and we have heard that there are -400's on the way for the airline also. The old -100's are going to be going away and if he can get his hands on cheap -200's I don't see what the big problem is. From what angryblackman is saying we are going to be flying the TNT-400's? I have not heard that! I don't know where he gets his twisted info from but I wish him luck in what ever he is doing.