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Old 31st October 2006 | 16:18
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Numero Crunchero
 
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Five Greens
can you please excuse how i express the following thoughts...I don't want to sound patronising or as a know it all.

My experiences with management has taught me of what I like to call the 'victorian england school model of union behaviour'. That is where you don't speak unless spoken too and if you do you will get a clip behind the ear! In the view of management, the HKAOA has absolutley NOTHING to offer to the success of CX other than rubber stamping some dodgy deals to stop the boys whinging! Training is far too complicated and above teh abilities of any GC member so why let them comment on it. Now is this the view generated from the DFO or the individual fleets?
You said!
You are missing the point. What was a good move for the AOA has been lost. Now the company can bypass anyone, which results in very junior oficers getting command out of seniority. It might also interest you to know that some of the DEFO freighter offiicers that joined under the ban have now made Captain. There should be limits as to what someone can be Cat B'd for. There should also be a pre-determined time and training to get the candidate to the level required.
So what...the new AOA has no discrimination based on DOJ. The point is that guys senior didn't want to, or couldn't do these commands due categorisation problems!
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However the GC has not even engaged the company on this issue. The company is loosing millions per year on training because of these outdated training methods and heavy handed checking. Surely the AOA could approach the business side of the company and suggest some improvements.
I don't mean to sound facetious but it has been tried many times always with a mirror man response...."we will look into it"

THE AOA is not on the board, nor is it in Flt Ops, nor is it the training department. Its job is to look for unfair actions that are identifiable and fixable. If CX decides that 10 or 15 guys are cat C or D how is the AOA supposed to know if that was fair or not? Five green you suggest far more power than the AOA GC has!

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