Originally Posted by
Numero Crunchero
Given how 'opaque' the system is it is difficult for the AOA to fix the problem when no problem is 'visible'. Yes I know there is obviously a problem...but if it can't be identified how can we fix it?
OK Here are the problems : There are no published standards by which the Command courses are decided. More importantly there are no standards by which you are CAT 'Bd . You should be given a concrete reason for both in order for you to improve and for others to come to the course/command assessment more prepared. Also what "standards" there are, are applied diffferently by all the trainers in the company, not only between fleets, but between trainers within the three fleets as well. This in part explains the better pass rates on the 777. The trainers there are doing a better job and are applying the standards more evenly.
The system relies on intensive written reports. There are no limits to what can be included. Someone's idea of what is crucial is not everyone's. However once the "errors" are written up in strong language then the star chamber will lean to failure rather than extension or extra sectors.
Then of coourse there is the fact that the Star Chamber acts after your final check and not before. Why they cannot leave some responsibility with the checker I will never know.
So now the problems are identified. The beef I have with the AOA is that they are not willing to take this up with the company. Go ask them yourself and you will see.
Originally Posted by
Numero Crunchero
I understand your angst over junior guys getting freighter commands. But this needs to placed in context. ASL was introduced I think in 96. It was a major achievement of the GC to get freighter guys back onto our seniority list...one compromise was that the company wanted to keep freighter command pay on C(D) scales. At least freighter commands are offered to everyone within CX.
You are missing the point. What was a good move for the AOA has been lost. Now the company can bypass anyone, which results in very junior oficers getting command out of seniority. It might also interest you to know that some of the DEFO freighter offiicers that joined under the ban have now made Captain. There should be limits as to what someone can be Cat B'd for. There should also be a pre-determined time and training to get the candidate to the level required.
Originally Posted by
Numero Crunchero
The problems are with the system...and I know it is frustrating but take it out on them not the GC. I can tell you that the GC is only as powerful as the actions the members are prepared to take....and since 2001 that isn't much!
Yes I agree that the strength of the GC lies in the membership. However the GC has not even engaged the company on this issue. The company is loosing millions per year on training because of these outdated training methods and heavy handed checking. Surely the AOA could approach the business side of the company and suggest some improvements.
Over to you........