Its funny isnt it, All the bitchiness and squabbling between the Q v J*, both here, publicly and internally and we dont seem to hear much at all from DJ. Yet the last profit was up. They have gained ground on the Business market and they continue to make quiet grounds with there expansion plans. (very good word the deal for the 10 EMB 190 is all but done and the longhaul announcement may be closer than people think.) Not even thinking of who will actually crew the longhaul but a decent full service across the pond will really hurt the Q business market. Atlantic for years have been leading the way in first class business service to the US from UK and there is no doubt that they will take many of the lessons /services across to the US. As many have already said here i think the jetstar thing has only helped DJ gaining more Q pax and I think there will be more to come soon