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Old 3rd Oct 2006, 08:33
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Bloggs, how about we just agree to differ.

"Airmanship" I've always taken to be aviation common sense. This involves a safe operation and being practical. Taking one's cue from other threads, the ** STAR ** arrived in this country with great fanfare and drama. Some folks had been flying them for quite a while elsewhere.

New/modified SOP's now require the PF and PNF to be in their seats for descent, a descent checklist read and briefing done. You're doing around 8nm/min, so the STAR issued at 150nm gives you [arguably] 6.25 minutes to load, check, brief and do the checklist, even if the TOD is at 100nm. Let's not even consider the ATC inspired speed limit given just prior to TOD which pulls the profile back outside the 100nm.

So my take on "airmanship" is to have the most probable STAR loaded and ready to run with the show sorted. Although my hit rate is less than Keg's due to the nature of my flying, the prediction rate is right up there.

Thus, let's agree to differ and all be one happy family.

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