I think you will find that the figures quoted for EZY are in fact basic salaries onto which there will be some additions - flight pay etc and hence quite accurate. I'm afraid that with Ryans it may be a little bit of a smoke screen and the ' basic salary ' they quote is in fact OTE ( on target earnings ).. .I don't think either are streaks ahead of the other - you just get it in a different way!. .. .ps. you may want to consider ammending the title if you want responses as it can be read as being detrimental to the abilities of EZY pilots and not pay related.. . . . <small>[ 24 March 2002, 08:37: Message edited by: nice_beaver ]</small>