I wonder if I might remind readers/posters that while this argument rolls along, the Vulcan project is still heading towards an untimely closure at the end of this month. Could we get our priorities sorted and look at ways of finding the team some more cash? As far as I know, there's only one possible solution and thats more help from HLF, so what are we going to do? Moan and gripe until the project closes down, or put some pressure on HLF to cough-up some more cash, so that we have a project to argue about?