With respect Say Again slowly you are obviously talking ouside your own level of experience because some the arguments you put forward are incorrect, for instance:
quote: Or during line training in an airline, there needs to be a safety pilot.
This is all unloggable time. The person is just there in case the proverbial hits the rotating object. Not as a cheap way to build hours.
Where on earth did you get that from? First of all can i mention that i am a training captain with a Heathrow based airline on jet transports.
During line training there is never a safety pilot in a minimum two crew aircraft. The commander of the aircraft sits in the RH seat if he is training a captain and vice versa if he is training an FO. For the first four sectors of that training a FO or Captain sits on the jump seat as observer but primarly in case the candiadte needs to be replaced at any stage. After these 4 sectors the pair continue alone, hours are logged as per normal and the observer should show a record of the flight in his log book.
QUOTE AGAIN--In each example you give, it shows the reason why these a/c are only single crew, yes there were two pilots onboard, but they weren't trained for multi crew operations and in each case this was a factor that contributed in someway to the accident.
Again not correct --
first example---a pilot taking over from an incapacitated pilot dosnt cause an accident, he prevents one and this has nothing to do with why the aircrafts C of A states---minimum crew-one.
second example---In the Penzer accident the AIB cited the fact that Penzer would have not have had the best view of the primary flying instruments and the ILS receiver to conduct an accurate go around from the RH seat in 100 metres and that this was one of the most likely contributory causes of the loss of control. Howver say again slowly your view that Penzer was not trained in multi crew operation was not a factor mentioned by the AIB.
QUOTE An airliner cannot be flown single crew unless there is an situation such as incapacitation and whilst it is possible to fly something like a 737 solo, certainly if the skipper has a heart attack, then how is the F/O to taxi the thing whilst on the ground.
WRONG ---Captain Paddy Clarke, recently retired, spent many years flying a Viscount as a one pilot aircraft for the Royal Aircraft Establisment, he had a specialy modified stick which he used to work the knobs out of reach on his right side! An FO taxies an aircraft on the ground in the same way that the captain does by using the tiller provided for him by the manufacturer, to coin one of your phrases, not exactlty, rocket science is it? In our company the FO is allowed to taxy all the way to the stand on his leg but not onto the stand as the guidance is set up for the LH seat pilot. To be fair some older aircaft i have flown have only had a tiller on the LH side but its rare nowadays on new aircraft.
QUOTE So to keep it sensible. an a/c that only REQUIRES a single pilot, only one person can log it, whereas a machine designated as multi pilot, needs more than one person to operate it on a normal basis, so the crew must always log it as there is clear and defined tasks for them to do to keep the a/c pointed in the right direction. Not the case with a single crew a/c.[/quote]
Again incorrect and as mentioned several times before you can log what you like in your log book if its a record of your experience. In the case where a required second pilot is carried that second pilot should log the time in his log book because 1. it is a record of his experience and 2. it proves that the commander was following the mandatory restriction in his licence.
You need to try an understand what the purpose of a log book is. Just say that our pilot with the restricted licence was killed along with his safety pilot. One of the things the AIIB would look at is the experience of both pilots and the pattern of their previous flying.If they looked at the safety pilots log book and it contained no such record of his supervision the AIIB may conclude that the restricted pilot had not been following the terms of his licence restriction. However,as has now been done to death on here, You cannot count P2 hours logged as such for the grant or renewal of a licence of a rating in the UK.
Again with respect and I would apply this to many of the posts I have seen on this forum, beware of confusing opinion with fact especially if your experience is limited.