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Old 29th July 2006 | 18:08
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haughtney1
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We are trained, are we not, to react instantly to a STOP call? Such force it carries that several airlines, including BA, have actually aborted above V1 on an incorrect stop call. I appreciate we work to different SOPs, but BA's and my current brief (and where you came from!) is "On the call of STOP! I will close the thrust levers etc etc" - not - "on the call of STOP! I'll look at it and decide what I do". I then go on to say - "advise me of any other ( ie other than the agreed 'STOP' items) malfunction and I will decide whether to STOP or CONTINUE." What do your SOPs say? I'd be interested to know. I grant you that it is not inconceivable that I might over-ride a stop call one day but it would be most unlikely!
Back up a second............

My point was that 120.4 was probably relaying his story/information in laymans rather than in technical terms..and didnt convey the information "verbatim"

As far as how this relates to SOP's I couldnt agree more but I stand by what I said relating to the commanders decision...certainly its ideally supposed to be an immediate decision (beyond 80kts) but up until that point you still have the time to make a brief assessment and hence a less hurried decision.

120.4's comments I believe conveyed the inclusive nature of what the MD11 skipper was after..i.e. a spare pair of eyes..and I would be very surprised to discover a widebody driver who had not yet grasped the descipline of a decent take off briefing

Having said all that..if the skipper did just say "if you see anything you dont like..shout STOP!! then yep hes a muppet"
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