I dont believe that was in the "spirit" in which the comment was intended
It also wasn't what was actually typed..nor was there anything to say 120.4 was conveying what was said verbatim
- we read that post differently!
You also know full well that the commander makes the ultimate decision to stop or continue..so in that regard you've confused me with your comments
- now you are confusing me!
We are trained, are we not, to react instantly to a STOP call? Such force it carries that several airlines, including BA, have
actually aborted above V1 on an incorrect stop call. I appreciate we work to different SOPs, but BA's and my current brief (and where you came from!) is "On the call of STOP! I
will close the thrust levers etc etc" - not - "on the call of STOP! I'll look at it and decide what I do". I then go on to say - "advise me of any other ( ie other than the agreed 'STOP' items) malfunction and I will decide whether to STOP or CONTINUE." What do your SOPs say? I'd be interested to know. I grant you that it is not inconceivable that I might over-ride a stop call one day but it would be most unlikely!
At V1-8 the F/O shouts STOP! Do you or don't you? Obviously in your airline
you are going to say "What's up, Doc?". I'm also envisaging the F/O handling, sensing a control freeze, calling STOP! and the Captain saying - "what's up mate? Just pull back a bit, old boy" - I don't think so!
Could you also PM me with your airline name!
In the situation as described by 120.4, my brief (normally) would be to ask 120.4 (yes, a useful pair of eyes) to tell me of anything he sees that concerns him, NOT to call STOP. When I have carried other j/seat pax I have often asked for silence during the take-off roll. If I have a training captain on a check ride on the j/seat I MAY include him in the F/O's permitted STOP calls, and if by chance he were actually a/c Captain, in all calls. Would you expect a j/seater to know that an aft pax or cargo door light does not necessarily need a STOP call whereas a forward one may, or that a pitot heater failure in CAVOK or generator at V1-10 is not necessarily a STOP?