The thread did get a little hijacked there, sorry!
Originally Posted by theresalwaysone
...the one argument you could use against ovals is that military student pilots are of a higher standard and ability that there civillian equivalents and therefore need more time and space....
You could argue that the post-graduate Elementary Flying Training pilots are likely to be of a higher standard and ability, but you certainly could not use that argument for the University Air Squadron students or the Air Experience Flight cadet pilots and navigators. They arrive, more often than not without any previous flying experience and only need pass a rudimentary medical with no aptitude tests, yet they are all taught upwind climbing turns and racetrack military circuits with a constant turn from downwind to finals. They mostly seem to cope.