Originally Posted by Lister Noble
Genghis,my sincere apologies,I meant 65mph and controls were sloppy!
115 mph downwind,turn onto base,carb heat ,reduce power,two stages flap,80 mph on final,third stage flap,I prefer a little less speed on final ,around 75-80 mph,control speed with elevator and height with throttle,in fact it is a combination of both.
We are are taught correct trim right from first lesson,setting it up for flaps on base and on final glide path.
The aircraft should always be trimmed to fly itself,except in transitory movements,ie steep turns etc.
I had better go back and edit my first post!
Lister

Ah, this does make another useful safety point, about the difficulties over multiple units in aviation.
But please, don't go back and edit your original post - it'll make much later discussion extremely confusing for anybody coming to this (very useful) thread in the future.
G