Originally Posted by saudipc-9
However, I don't appreciate attitude or ATC dictating operations that might not be convenient for them
If you honestly thing that any request for approaches is based on "convenience" for the controller, then I may as well stop this discussion now............
I pose this to you. Do you think that perhaps your requests for approaches have been declined for
operational reasons? Traffic at the airport? Weather? Staffing? Perhaps you need a refresher on what the C in "ATC" stands for. I also find it amusing you can glean the "attitude" of a controller from up there in the cockpit. What do you base your "PO'd" assertion on? You haven't really answered anything from my previous post regarding instances when you have been refused.
The problem I am referring to is the fact that civi ATC regularly tells the BIG2 how many aircraft they will accept into places like YQR for no good reason. Do they tell AC or West jet that they cannot fly there?? No.
Sorry to be so crass, but that is just plain bull!!!!. Once again, no good reason? Sorry mate, you mention attitude earlier.......sounds like yours needs a bit of adjustment.
I've been doing a bit of a scouting mission over the last couple of days, asking both terminal and enroute controllers have they every denied a request for approaches at either YXE or YQR (btw, I work YXE terminal, so I'm including myself here). I have had 2 responses in the affirmative, and they were during the recent CAATS ORD at Winnipeg Centre (there was a NOTAM out......you may or may not have seen it
). Or is that one of the "no good reasons" you mention. I personally have never denied on. I'll do a little more asking around for you, just to be sure. Then again, if you actually visited Winnipeg Centre....... you know, the place you're being so eloquent about (as that's where YQR and YXE airspace is controller from), you could ask around yourself.
(I humbly apologise to the thread starter and other contributors to this thread for this unfortunate hijack)