I quite like the sound of the PAYD thingy. Despite a shrinking force, I've yet to experience it. Probably do the world of good to my waistline! A thought.....How about PAYF (Pay As You Fly), we could sell all the ac to some enterprising organisation and ONLY pay for the ac when we fly them. We could get rid of the smelly bits of the RAF like the plumbers and sumpies etc that way. We could extend that to PAYP (Pay As You Pole) and get rid of all the aircrew chaps as well. Next PAYS (Pay As You Scribble) and get rid of the losers in Admin, then PAYFEA (Pay As You F**k EverybodyAbout) and get rid of the Air W*n*e*s who dream up all this !!!!e!