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Old 22nd May 2006, 15:49
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History repeats again....we expats in GF on the L1011 achieved several such incidents of off runway and taxy way nose wheels and main wheels buried in the grass, even sink through of main gears through soft taxy way surfaces.
I think the management thought we were trying to get time off down route.
Later on the B767 a national pilot we had trained did better he destroyed a hangar and blasted several light aircraft over and turned them into scrap.
There was some debate if he should have been allowed to paint a symbol of this strike beneath the cockpit side window like the military are allowed to do.
You emirates boys will have to try hard to equal the cock up of our abandon takeoff due burst tyres in the L1011 at CDG. left gear destroyed down to a strut that ploughed a single furrow down the runway. Captian ex BA retiree
was trained to abandon for a tyre burst...rumour is the French were still argueing compensation for closeing the runway with GF over that one but it all went away when GF bought Airbuses.
We also managed a stick shaker on the L1011 on finals into CDG. Australian Captain later fleet Captain (of course) was ex Cyprus airways.
Also an ex Cyprus Captain was the F/o and an ex Dan Air flight engineer....remarkably the flight engineer was heavily blamed for not monitoring! Go figure...as Ironbutt would say.
So there you go....what has been learned from these incidents by ex GF management who now manage other Gulf Airlines after they were replaced wholesale after the A320 fatal crash? It appears not a lot.
Fuel wise in GF we managed to take off from Bahrain on a flight to Bombay in a L1011 with 15 tons of fuel on board instead of 51 tons. This was a national flight engineer training flight with commercial passengers on a scheduled service... the training Captain and training flight engineer were involved in deep L1011 technical debate whilst signing for this verbally requested fuel load. This flight landed somewhat promptly into Auh to pick up fuel when the national under training pointed out his very first "How goes it" chart check said it was "Not going to well" in fact it said they were not going to make it!
We even had an Ex BA training Captain take off on Bahrain runway 30 for Bombay in a VC10 and ATC called him as he neared Kuwait requesting when he intended to turn right as per their clearance.
You emirates chaps have got to go some to keep up with the incidents we pulled.......fatigue is a myth...tiredness is normal.... it is all good fun...hardest part is trying to stay awake.
I will watch your incident progress with interest to see if you can pull somethying out of the hat to beat what we achieved.
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