I'm wondering if everybody is on the same page concerning the definition of steep and shallow. What is normal, perhaps a little shallow for me is steep to some I've flown with. Could we perhaps define our terms, with respect to the approach angle in degrees? I don't do mountain flying, but for offshore rig approaches, at or near max gross weight, high density altitude, what works for me is putting the pitot tube (in an S76) on the far edge of the deck, getting about 250 fpm descent, and holding that angle throughout the approach. This results in very little pitch increase at the bottom, and little or no flare, and doesn't cause the very high torque requirements I see with very shallow approaches (almost flat in many cases). I'm not sure what the actual approach angle is for this, but many pilots I've flown with do consider it steep, although I don't think it is.