EMPTY VESSELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE
The only constant in this small and unrepresentative forum is the usual ill-informed hot air from individuals like lowerlobe and QCC2 and the usual cowardly libel coming from lowerlobe.
It's truly pathetic to see comments made from the cloak of anonymity suggesting that the FAAA would rig the JFK ballot, and these comments are indicative of how truly stupid those making the comments are.
Firstly, some of the "industrial geniuses" in here , who think they know so much about the complex issues facing us, should therefore know that every EBA has a FACILITATIVE PROVISION which empowers the FAAA and the employer (in this case QF) to reach agreements that would otherwise be in conflict with a provision of an EBA.
Therefore:
1) No vote was necessary on JFK IN THE FIRST INSTANCE
2) WHY WOULD THE FAAA RIG A VOTE TO GET AN OUTCOME...WHEN IT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE?
3)A vote was arranged by the FAAA to see if most of our members understood the need to be flexible... that is why there was a vote...and this was explained in newsletter after newsletter.
There have only been 2 votes on industrial issues in the history of the FAAA. Both were organised and conducted and counted by the FAAA.
The first was the "blue book" vote in 1998 over the restructure and the second vote was the recent JFK vote. The first vote failed and the second vote on JFK was supported by a resounding 71% of cabin crew.
The supposed "fact" that anonymous individuals in here assert, that they cannot find people who voted yes is utter and complete rubbish and lies and is further indicative of the rabble that these individuals are. Not only are they totally out of touch with the vast mainstream of crew but they are liars too and prepared to post defammatory rubbish on here.
Rather than being anonymous wimps why don't you publically assert that the vote was rigged? You will be served writs faster than you can blink and you better make sure you have plenty of assets.
Hawkeye i thought you were redeeming yourself and it is a shame you seem to be supportiing some of this rubbish about rigging a vote.
Unlike some morons in here, the FAAA leadership are not going to destroy their credibility and good names and the reputation of the FAAA in order to rig a vote.... a vote which was conducted to gain approval of crew to ensure their jobs were not placed under further pressure.
It is truly remarkable and hugely disappointing and disheartening that we have such utter idiots amongst our membership and officials of the FAAA could be forgiven for considering why they even bother to fight for L/H and its job security when comments such as the rigging comments are made by some crew.
The challenges being posed to L/H crew are huge, they come from unrelenting pressure from QF, based on the massive cost differential that exists between L/H crew and Australian Airlines, overseas based crew, S/H crew and the newly formed Jetstar International. Overlaid on this is the new Industrial Legislation, the new Industrial Regulations and the associated complex matters such as the "prohibited matters".
All that i am certain of is that L/H crew are very fortunate indeed to have the current L/H FAAA officials and not former officials or some of the remarkably untalented and cowardly who post in here.