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Old 3rd Apr 2006, 14:31
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jdegrave
 
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The reason I think the company would benefit from a upgrade is there are several times where the R44 is completely maxed out on weight and on the limits C of G. There has been several times where we have had to leave a passenger behind or replace them with a lighter passenger.

I understand that operating at Max Gross and on CG limits is just part of the buisness but as often as this acurrs I think they would be happier with a larger more comfortable helicopter. I also thought a heavier helicopter would handle turbulence better. We have a couple passengers that get motion sickness easily . They take their pills and use their sick sacks. Total Troopers!

I thought the EC 120 would be a good match due to the cruise speed, large storage compartment and the ability to carry 4 passengers. I also like the smooth ride the 3 bladed rotor system gives. I was unaware of the issues with C of G.

I would love to upgrade them into an AS350 B3 as I have flown that aircraft for a past employer and was very impressed. However, I personally think that is too much helicopter for this company. More than likely they would never use the helicopter to it's full capasity.

If I where only trying to build turbine time I think the 206 would be the way to go. I believe it is about the cheapest route after figuring in all the expenses. The issue is the R44 is directly comparable to it. It will carry as many passengers as the R44, but is a little slower.

The 206L might be a step in the right direction with the added seats. I'm conserned about comfort though. Get the back full and Passengers and they would be knocking knees. My other consern is our average trip is 3 hrs one way, thats a long way to travel backwards.

Anyone know much about the MD helicopters?

I dont think I would be able to sell my employer on the accident rate of Pistons vs Turbines. Most of those accidents are unrelated to the engine. Comparing the specific number of engine falures of Pistons vs Turbines isnt that convinsing either. That's a small number. How often does an engine just stop out of nowhere for no apparent reason? How often have you been driving and the engine just quit?

They have the money it's just a matter of convinsing them to spend it on a helicopter.

Thank you all for your very valuable input!
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