Dan
Thanks for your post. I am very pleased to be 'singing from the same hymn sheet.'
However, I come back to my original point.
Recognition - take some time on this, if the student can't recognize the warnings of the approaching stall or the stall itself there is no point in continuing.
In a PA28,the stall itself includes an oscillatory pitching effect which the AAIB says is not included in ab initio flight training and should not be practised by UK flying instructors. However, students are required to be able to recover from a fully developed stall which includes this pitching effect.
Would it be right to say that as soon as this 'nodding effect' is reached, the student recovers or the fully developed stall should not be developed to include this oscillatory effect.
Regards......TJ