Whilst this thread and the original one obviously made some people feel uncomfortable that in itself is not reason enough to remove a thread. If the incidents happened then pretending they didn't does not make them go away. The original thread was allowed because the poster provided full details and did not post anonymously. This post was allowed because it provided a different perspective on the same issue.
There are some serious CRM and management issues to be debated because of the way this whole affair was handled by all parties. Most people are able to discuss the relevant issues and it is an ignorant minority that fail to see the main points and concentrate on trivia or irrelevancies. As this is an open forum most readers with a normal IQ or better are able to ignore the idiots who are unable to contribute meanigfully to the debate. If there are journalists reading this and deciding to make a story outof it for their tabloids then they will cater for the ignorant ones.
Just because a story is uncomfortable doesn't warrant removing it. If the events happened and one party has decided to make public the details from his point of view then so be it. Whilst I do not expect the other parties to state their side in a public forum they have the opportunity to do so, either officially or as some on here suspect, anonymously. Whatever the issue, it is in the public domain and contains issues that are worthy of debate as they potentially affect CRM and possibly flight safety issues.
If the thread degenerates into meaningless argument that no one can win or concede on then I will close it. Equally, if the ignorant brigade try to inject their infantile attempts at humour or digress into areas of irrelevance such as trying to name the individuals then it will be closed too. At the end of the day there was a problem, it was handled and this is the debate. How it was handled what is relevant is open for discussion and although some feel uncomfortable with that, putting ones head in the sand doesn't make it go away.
Last edited by Capt PPRuNe; 31st Mar 2002 at 10:05.