Maximum Pete,. .. .I have no idea who you are, (though a shrewd idea as to which airline and where), but having read the thread, would like to add my thoughts...... .. .I am a professional pilot much as you are (or were). Your story (and I don't doubt it for a moment - it pales into insignificance compared with others I have heard) leaves me cold.. .. .My concern is with the state of our profession.. .. .Managers and regulators alike are responsible for driving our standards down, whether they are standards of qualification, training, technical knowledge, or conduct. It sounds as though your nemesis has lower standards than you, in many if not all of these respects.. .. .Might I take this opportunity to say, to fellow professionals who read this forum, that it is not too late to 'stop the rot' - yet. We must stand firm for what we believe in. Do you, Pete, imagine that your story could have unfolded in BA in the 60s? No, of course not. The 'lady' concerned would have been thrown out on her backside for having the temerity to accuse. I do not suggest that this would have been right either - the acceptable path lies between this and that which you have been forced to tread.. .. .We must, if we believe that we are professionals, stop putting up with this type of rubbish from our 'managers'. I cannot stress the point strongly enough.. .. .If we do not do this, we can expect the present changes to our lives - more work, less pay, fewer and lower standards, more interference, and a down-skilling of our profession - to continue.. .. .I am lucky enough to be an able communicator, and take the opportunity to communicate in all sorts of forums, as and when I can. I often find this difficult, as it can grind against the 'corporate philosophy' which my position dictates I must support. I have met with some success of late. However, I often feel mine is a lone voice.. .. .You fell on your sword, Pete, and I hope you don't let this episode cloud your reminiscences. Enjoy your retirement. You have earned it.. .. .Colleagues, stand with me.. .. .Stop the rot.. . . . <small>[ 10 March 2002, 09:06: Message edited by: NorthernSky ]</small>