Pigboat, nicely said!. .. .Ellion, what is your post doing here? What happened was AFTER the tech log had been signed in.. .. .Uncle Pete, know the story but never new this............. .. . "When she came to her final line check with me she still needed more training and I refered her to the Training Manager who checked her out. She was furious at the time and threatened to get her own back one day. Guess what???". .. .You were spot on. She will chop the power at 50' at vma+5kts on the F100 and THUMP it in. Say anything at choxs on and the waterworks flow. Will not accept constructive criticsm. Still needs more training!. .. .Jet A1 smells crap in the morning, ENJOY the smell of bacon and coffee in the morning Pete!