I'd dearly like to close this thread but I'm going to keep it going to display the nepotism and bigoted views of some of our contributors. LongJohnT, you're on final warning with your blithering "judgment day" posting. Anymore inciting, racist posts like that, unrelated to aviation & you will lose the privilege of contributing to these forums.
Carry on gentlemen but proceed with caution and due respect for others.
4HP