Hector_Pascal,. .. .I`m glad you enjoyed your stay in Porto Santo, europes most hidden secret! In what hotel did you stay? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. .ATC Whatcher,. .. .I`m impressed with what you know about Porto Santo! It`s true, always be very carefull when passing the cliff. You can get severe updrafts and downdrafts! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. .Once again, relative to Funchal, I`ve been operating there for 3 years and I`ve got worst landings and apps in LOWI, LOWS, EIDW and EGPF. Those airports can be really bad!. .. .About the wind limitations, if you they are too conservative, there has never been made a study about them, just like in GIB. Those limitations were imposed by a guy (retired pilot) working at the INAC, who flew a lot to Funchal and he thinks they`re good like that! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> . .. .As far as I know, they were based in some information given by TAP! But, when the new runway was finished it was shifted 5 degrees in relation to the old one and the part suported by pylons (is that the word?), similar to a bridge, changed the effects of the winds... Everyone agrees with that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> !!! So, the INAC, decided to shrink the limits! Airlines werw diverting everyday! The local goverment complained and the old limits were restored and after some time, they were increased by a few knots... . .. .SEE what I`m trying to say? That`s the way the winds were handled in Funchal... No real study!. .. .From personal experience, I can say, be VERY VERY carefull when in use runway 23 and winds in 05 come from 180-220º and 23 also... and above 25 Kts... Doesn`t seem bad, I know... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> Wind will come from all directions from 100 feet to the ground... and severe turbulence with it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. .Cheers!!!. .. .Nice easter for you all