When you say exactly the same thing what do you mean by that? Are you talking FOF, MCC, JOT and the careers service afterwards which although it has been a bit dodgy in the past I beleive its improving all the time. Aswell as the instructors all being more experienced so quite rightly commanding a higher wage packet. Also the facilites are very good and no doubt cost more to build than some other schools and more to maintain. No doubt OAT do make a pretty penny out of each an every one of us but its not quite as clear cut as they make 30k more than other other schools do.