I think that all 'us' valid controllers may be completly missing the point here! The Red Barron is a very smart guy....what is he actually up to? Well who has all the power in NATS at the minute......ATCOs.....how do you get round that....well you flood the market place with student ATCOs, paying them as little as possible and hope as many as possible get through...even if you loose a few along the way it does not matter....you have only lost £10,000! Then you hope all these student ATCOs validate, asap and then, over time, you have the ATCOs by the short and curlies....time to take the medicine again.....