The question that I like to raise is the following:
Who is responsible for the de-icing?
OPS manual says the captain, but how can he/she be, how can we even check the de-icing specially when being de-iced on a remote de-icing stand.
Manufacturer says that de-icing is a Mx action, but they don't even know this.
In fact it's ground handling that de-ices the airplane, but as far as I know there are no legal requirements for the crew to do this (Iwas de-iced once by someone who was just hired for the job as a contracter and had not received any training!)
Of course the flight crew should ensure te aircraft to be safe for flight, but other then stating that de-icing is required I have no idea how we can be responsible.
How do you guy's and gals deal with this issue?