Ozoilfield.. .. .The instrument you referred me to is merely a permission under CAR 152.. .. .Its only effect is that parachute jumps conducted in accordance with its conditions are not in breach of CAR 152. That is all.. .. .The conditions of a permission to conduct parachute jumps cannot be – and hence do not purport to be – an exemption from the requirement to hold an AOC.. .. .The AOC requirement applies to parachute operations the same as it applies to any other operations.. .. .If a pilot gets a few parachuting mates together to go parachuting and they all share the costs equally between them (including the pilot), that’s private, and accordingly the operation need not be authorised by an AOC. And if they also satisfy the conditions of a permission under CAR 152, they don’t breach CAR 152. . .. .If the owner of an aircraft pays a pilot to take them parachuting, that’s private, and accordingly the operation need not be authorised by an AOC. And if they also.... . .. .If a pilot’s given free hours in command to carry passengers in an aircraft they don’t own, that’s charter. Parachutist are passengers until they exit the aircraft. If the operation is not conducted under the authority of AOC, the Civil Aviation Act is breached, notwithstanding that the operations may have been conducted in accordance with CAR 152.. .. .I Fly: spot on (except for not picking up the fact that the “twin-engined turbine aircraft on parachuting flights on Saturday and Sunday” were commercial and counted anyway, unless they all (including the pilot) shared the costs or the parachutist/s owned the aircraft).. . . . <small>[ 12 March 2002, 11:07: Message edited by: Creampuff ]</small>