I understand what you are saying. You want to work to pay the debt off. This is still prostitution in my mind- sorry, but I feel it is. The reason I say this is because the next guy that comes along after paying $30000 for his CPL and Instructor rating will be told, "You see Dogimed over there, he works for free here, I don't have to pay him. So if you want to fly here you'll have to do the same. Or, we could even get you flying quicker if you want to pay me $20 per flying hour. How does that sound new green CPL with a big smile on your face???". .Despite what you may believe Dogimed, aviation operators/ owners aren't loving, caring, sharing people, they are simply out to make a quick buck in an industry that already has incredibly small (read nil) profit margins, and if they can save $50 per flying hour they will do it. No doubt about it. It is up to us (as the Pilots) to stop this behaviour. Only then will this industry start to improve for the benefit of us. We must take a stand and stop the rot.. .. .Now then. As you said, you will not find a flying school willing to do what you propose due to the above reasons(profit margins), $30000 is a big debt for a flying school to take on.. .As for how to save the money to do it? I joined the military for 4 years. It was good fun and I saved heaps.. .. .Good Luck. I hope I havn't sounded too negative. There is just a fundamental issue at stake here that needs protecting. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />