Turbine, touche.... .. .But, no-one has actually made any reference to the gentleman's personal qualities, and I doubt that anyone will challenge that Ross is "...a ruthless and fast moving businessman..." or that he "...has embraced the opportunities in GA..." . .. .However, despite all this the points in the above referenced thread were to where quality pilot training is offered. I can only assume that the "anonymous replies " you (anonymously) refer to, is my post in that thread. But I must correct you:. .. .1. "from resentful or disgruntled competition" - I can assure you, I am neither. I just reckon the service and training I got at the other school was excellent and from the other thread I would say I'm not alone. If PBAFT have the customer satisfaction to get good word of mouth publicity from so many people then, good on 'em!. .. .2. "those people that make broad generalisations about larger establishments." - this one I find interesting. You'll find that in the referenced thread, my post reads, "I did most of my earlier training at one of the other LARGER organisations..." This is not a broad generalisation but a specific reflection on what I experienced at THE larger school I was involved with. In neither thread did I mention which school I was referring to, you have made your own connection there.. .. .Regards to Ross, anonymously of course... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. .JP. .Edited for spelling and to be nicer.. .. .(This was a paid advertisment for Nobody Aviation Services P/L (unless they exist) and is in no way associated with any other school on or off Moorabbin). . . . <small>[ 11 March 2002, 08:05: Message edited by: jon.pierre ]</small>