FSU. .. .Read my post and then read my lips. .. .After midnight WST is the start of zero tolerance time for EVERYONE. OK.. .. .I told you I will not take sides.. .. .Let's see if we can all work out how to continue to discuss the issues without resorting to personal abuse or at the best agree to disagree.. .. .If you haven't won over the other side with your view by now then it probably isn't going to happen, the consequences and reactions from both sides have now been made clear. Nothing said here can change that now.. .. .So lets get on with where to from here.. .. .Just remember midnight OZ WST, 1600 PUT, 1600 UTC.