You are right Flying Croc,I mean you only have to look at Etihad to see what the cheap charter airline management has done for them.Itcertainly would be a shame if EK went the same way.If any of you guys are serious about leaving.....dont even consider Etihad.The conditions there are a million times worse.......management by fear(or should i say monkeys!)terrible pay.A lot of guys are hanging on because they think that things are so bad that they can only get better.Who knows perhaps they will?I think things at EK will have to sink a lot further down in the quality and SAFETY standards before they reach the ETIHAD level.Good luck anyway