That great every one made up i'm feeling warm and fuzzy, how about a group hug. Just my two cents on the Direct entry guys we all got bent over where I work, like Checkster pointed out even direct entry to check airmen, thats PURE GARBAGE!!!! The only way to fight back for Checkster is dont EVER take a @#$% like that on your jump seat EVER, there will come a day when he needs your help and paybacks are a mother......... Then sit back relax and tell him to get his fat face out of your plane!!!!! Good luck to the Orange folks, don't bend over!!!!! I know been there it don't feel good!!! Bratko