"Really though, we could be working together for better pay and conditions for all of us and here we are debating who really is the 'real' qantas pilot. Does anyone apart from those that wish to be really care?". .Great idea Keg !. .I guess that most of the posters and readers on this thread do work under the Qantas banner somewhere along the line.Maybe it would be a good idea if AIPA changed it's charter and opened it's doors to all pilot's.Imagine how much could be done with AIPA representing all or a majority of us.. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />