Richard Kranium, your name says it all. Qantas have OFFERED a 3% payrise to all employee groups in returns for offsets. I wouldn't mind a 3% payrise but to have to give up conditions to stay up with inflation when they are making record profits and the executive management reward themselves with multi million dollar bonus's is a bit rich. Now Dixon is making threats to the pilot group if we vote no. Is it any wonder so many employee's are pissed off at Qantas? Employee's get no thanks or respect from executive management. We're just treated like **** and walked all over. How convenient that Qantas has forgotten how the pilots took a 0% payrise a few years ago when things were tough and now they turn around and wave the big stick at us. How convenient!