Thanks SOPS. .. .Flew MELOOL on an international config 763 - full electric adjust seat and back on a 738 - bleeding wonderful - the 763 seat is just plain uncomfy for someone my height but I now know why men like women in leather - they smell like new aeroplanes - the 738 is an absolute gem - but I digress - yes again.. .. .QF has suddenly become very user friendly to us leaches on the butt of this industry as I think they are wary of who may be in the shadows.. .. .While the administrators drag things out as long as they can to milk every last cent - the 2002 version of Tojo is leaning over the horizon ready to pounce and they seem to know it. One very basic oriental trait is patience.. .. .Watch this space.. .. .___________________________________________________________ ______. .. .Open the pod bay doors Hal. .. .I'm sorry - I can't do that Dave