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Old 12th September 2005 | 10:19
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Fuji Abound
 
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None of this logically makes any sense at all!

WWW is objecting to pilots asking for a training fix when they are lost and is suggesting that the vast majority of training fixes are really from pilots who are lost or who are "nearly" lost.

If a pilot is lost or nearly lost he needs to make the call on 121.5. We all agree on that. We also agree the pilot should own up to being lost, although some of us argue being uncertain of your position in contrast to totally lost doesn’t warrant a full pan. We also seem to agree that the vast majority of the calls aren’t pilots wanting a genuine training fix - in other words those that know their position accurately.

The argument for me is therefore nonsense because we have an allegedly huge number of pilots who are lost or nearly lost who should be making the call in the interests of everyone’s safety and yet we are proposing to legislate against them doing so. Who is running the asylum??!!

Whether all these pilots should be lost or nearly lost is a totally different matter. Clearly they should not. Who is to blame - well I am afraid it has to be the FIs. The fact of the matter is get the training right and the problem will go away.

I have one analogy. When we are new pilots we have our fare share of go arounds. No one asks if these are practise go arounds or are because the landing is looking a bit iffy! In either case they do take up valuable ATC time but we recognise there necessity. Of course we could only permit a go around with a FI aboard unless it was a real go around

"Anyway back to the point, If you are monitoring 121.5, you won't hear every call from light a/c, simply because their radios aren't powerful enough, but you'll certainly hear an awful lot more commercial traffic because of the power output and altitude of the transmissions. So it isn't really any kind of argument to say "I heard this whilst I was flying" therefore it's gospel."

You are of course correct BUT it still doesn’t explain why the numbers of calls are so much fewer than suggested.
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