Training fixes

[ShyTorque]

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Horse!!!!? I think (especially as) as a moderator you have rather gone over the top on this one. If I berated yourself using such language I could expect to be at least moderated or even banned.

Firstly, without doubt, the most common cause of clutter on 121.5 these days is caused by "professional" airline pilots calling on the distress frequency instead of the frequency they should be on. This is compounded by other (often same company) pilots telling them they are on 121.5. Both are inappropriate use of the frequency, highly unprofessional, because neither are entitled to use 121.5 in this manner.

Secondly, a student pilot (or any other) asking for a training fix gets a position fix, full stop from D&D. A pilot making a "Pan" call and declaring himself lost (he might not be lost, just a little uncertain of a couple of position fixes) by definition gets much more D&D assistance, which actually ties up much far more air time.

A call made in good time, by a student pilot uncertain of position, using a training fix prefix (he would be perfectly entitled, the CAP reference has been quoted already) could well prevent a much more serious situation from developing. I think NO-ONE is condoning "lying"on the R/T, as per your accusation.

Please consider moderating your own post and language in this respect.

As for your last post "The first link in the chain of an horrendous accident killing hundreds could well be that 50 minutes earlier Commander Boeing deselected 121.5 due to the incessant clamour of training fix requests (it was a hazy summer Saturday in the Uk"

You cannot be serious. What evidence of this is there? Rather like an inexperienced car driver making an incorrect indicator selection at a roundabout and being accused of causing a motorway pileup 50 minutes later?

BTW, GPS is not authorised for primary navigation by the CAA in UK. To condone its use for primary navigation in an emergency, in preference to the official D&D service is surely incorrect.