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Old 8th December 2001 | 21:50
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The Guvnor
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2Low2Fast - we've been through this bonding issue before on a number of threads. Unfortunately, as long as people move from job to job (especially low timed FOs) then the airlines have to safeguard their interests. In fact, I was under the impression that FR were getting their new hires to pay for a conversion course?

As for the option to put people on unpaid leave - I think you'll find that a lot of carriers are - or will be - including similar clauses in their contracts; using hard learnt lessons from the current economic climate.

Re the sims - I understand that they use GECAT. Can anyone confirm this?

OzDude - if I ever apply to you for a job, I'd be more than happy to supply the information requested. As I'm not, why should I? People who have a need - or right - to know are of course provided them and that includes a few people on here.

Unlike the majority of people on here - including yourself, I note - I do not hide my identity or even location. Surely if I was as 'devious' as you claim, I would remain as covert as possible!

As to whether or not you doubt my veracity that of course is your own choice. I don't see anyone holding a gun at your head, forcing you to read my posts - or indeed anyone elses. If you don't like what you read, don't read it - pass onto something that might better suit your needs such as a thread on "Why Pilots Are Sky Gods and Should Run Airlines And Be Paid Millions Plus Get A Minimum of 4 Days Off Per Week And A Maximum of 200 Hours Duty Time Per Year". Hmmmm, not an '89er, were you? Thought so!

I'm also rather interested to see that you're claiming that "I know for a fact that you are extremely devious and anyone who gives you their details risks being harassed and intimidated by you or one of your aliases and I know personally of people who have befriended you only to have their hospitality abused and their finances pilfered." You'll appreciate that these are rather serious allegations and I'd appreciate it if you would disclose precisely who has been "harassed and intimidated"; who my "alias" is that allegedly "harassed and intimidated" such alleged person or persons; and from whom I have allegedly "pilfered" finances. I'd also appreciate it if you could provide your name and address - not for "harassment" but rather so my attorney can arrange to have you served with a summons for libel should you not be able to provide such evidence requested.

I'd be happy to accept your offer of a wager. What terms do you propose?

Going back to the subject at hand - I suspect that these contractual terms will apply solely to lowtimed FOs. Looking through past threads, I can't see any rumblings of discontent from any of the Captains - indeed they seem to be some of the highest paid in the business!