So very true, Hover & B.
I definately wouldn't (or should I say won't - 6-7 years from now if I'm lucky) be doing stuff to upset/risk the people I have to take upstairs, let alone in something I felt so lucky to be able to fly. And besides just the insurance rates, I'm sure they will look at his time and apply that to the "job" and up the hours they are comfortable with for applicants. That whole hours/experience thing. BTW on that, in the back of my mind I'm considering saving a bit of cash to go to Torrence for the factory safety course. could make a nice 3-5 day vacation. At least, sometime soon I want to do it.
I'm sure the loading of the heli did come into play as well. the local concensus was he was doing one of his cyclic climbs to hover, or trying to go over the top. Just kills me, I'll have to get off topic or i'll be really depressed this weekend ... You guys are flying for a living, I'm almost there, give or take a limb and some years.
[This message has been edited by RW-1 (edited 08 March 2001).]