If the collective is fully down, and the speed selects at idle, what would be the point of "flying the disc"? Surely there would be little or no thrust from the disc, and little or no overall effect. Can't remember having to resort to such a move, even when sitting on the Capalonga (North Sea tyros from the 70's will remember the name with dread....) and seeing nearly 20 degrees of roll in a 212
Having refused to go back after that episode, a B105 gave it a go and slid off the back end with all doors still open, and bits falling away left and right